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#1 MistaMike54
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#2 da_real_deal
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lol @ trumps partner...it looks like its gunna be kennedy haha (too bad we already kno who it is...) and as far as the cage match goes, lashley retains...simply put (for some reason they want him to look really dominant) my guesses for other announced matches are rated rko win their tag titles back (hopefully), and hardy wins his spot in mitb oh and did anyone else hear about mitb3 involving 8 people?
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Cena and HBK need to lose the tag team championship to rated rko so then rated rko can lose them to Cryme Tyme or Ric Flair and Carlito.

Jeff Hardy should win but I would be surprised is Shelton pulls out a win.

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Cena and HBK need to lose the tag team championship to rated rko so then rated rko can lose them to Cryme Tyme or Ric Flair and Carlito.

Jeff Hardy should win but I would be surprised is Shelton pulls out a win.

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#5 Rage11
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Trump makes his pick...OMGZ WHOIZIT GON BE?!?!?!
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Trump makes his pick...OMGZ WHOIZIT GON BE?!?!?!Rage11

LKES OMGZ IT GOTZTA BEEEE DA \UDETAKR EVEN THO HES IN A MTCH ALRADY!!!!!

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Mr. McMahon annoints Umaga as his representative in the Battle of the Billionaires.

Trump to reveal his pick
Mr. McMahon sent a serious message to rival billionaire Donald Trump on Monday night when he selected new Intercontinental Champion Umaga to represent the Chairman in the Battle of the Billionaires at WrestleMania 23. On the next edition of Raw, “The Donald” will answer back by announcing which Superstar will carry the Trump banner in Detroit on April 1. Which competitor will have the mogul’s endorsement? How will Mr. McMahon or, more importantly, the Samoan Bulldozer react to Trump’s pick?

Opponents and partners
On two consecutive nights, Shawn Michaels was true to his word to WWE Champion John Cena, having his tag team partner’s back at No Way Out and on Raw. Will Michaels uphold his promise this Monday night as he and Cena defend their World Tag Team Championship against Rated-RKO? WWE fans will find out right at 9/8 CT, as the match will kick off Raw.

Cashing in
So far, Edge, CM Punk and King Booker have qualified for the Money in the Bank Ladder Match at WrestleMania 23. Tonight, a fourth man will be added to that mix when Jeff Hardy takes on Shelton Benjamin in the next qualifying match. Will Benjamin move on to his third consecutive Money in the Bank appearance, or is there yet another WrestleMania Ladder Match in Hardy's future?

From paparazzi to Playboy
Melina changed the face of all Diva-dom on Raw as she seized the Women’s Championship from Mickie James. Despite arguably the biggest win in her career, Melina did not seem too happy Monday night as the new champion disparaged latest Playboy cover girl and SmackDown Diva, Ashley. It seems as if the attention Melina gets from the usual torrent of paparazzi isn’t enough any more. What will the Women’s Champion do to ensure the spotlight stays fixed on her curvaceous body?

Find out live Monday night at 9/8 CT only on the USA Network.

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I hope RAW continues to do a good show. I would like both Shelton and Jeff Hardy in the MITB Ladder match but if I had to pick, I pick Shelton. I want the Hardys vs. MNM battle to continue on at WM.
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I hope RAW continues to do a good show. I would like both Shelton and Jeff Hardy in the MITB Ladder match but if I had to pick, I pick Shelton. I want the Hardys vs. MNM battle to continue on at WM.KevyR

Plus Benjamin would win his first 1 on 1 in forever.

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I believe the HBK heal turn takes place tonight, as he costs him and Cena the match, as Rated RKO win back the Tag Titles. But I'm really excited about the WOMG DONLOD TRUMPH PICK!! LYK DEY KEPT IT A SECRET ALL TH1Z T1ME SO IT MUST BE TEH GOOD RITE?! RITE?!
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I believe the HBK heal turn takes place tonight, as he costs him and Cena the match, as Rated RKO win back the Tag Titles. But I'm really excited about the WOMG DONLOD TRUMPH PICK!! LYK DEY KEPT IT A SECRET ALL TH1Z T1ME SO IT MUST BE TEH GOOD RITE?! RITE?!Rage11
welp, thats if HBK goes heel, it happens right off the bat
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[QUOTE="Rage11"]I believe the HBK heal turn takes place tonight, as he costs him and Cena the match, as Rated RKO win back the Tag Titles. But I'm really excited about the WOMG DONLOD TRUMPH PICK!! LYK DEY KEPT IT A SECRET ALL TH1Z T1ME SO IT MUST BE TEH GOOD RITE?! RITE?!mrgab
welp, thats if HBK goes heel, it happens right off the bat

guess not, have to wait. After that video, see more likely Cena turns on HBK
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#13 wwe4ever_in05
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Well someone WILL turn on someone else.

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#14 mrgab
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poor Shelton
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#15 wwe4ever_in05
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Johnny Nitro killed Super Crazy!!!!!
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Hope you guys enjoyed that Shelton Benjamin match, because its probably going to be the only one you see for the next several months after another Benjamin botch.

Looks like Hardy gets to fall off another ladder to keep his more misguided fans thinking he's "teh gr8est eva."  I thought we were almost certainly getting another Hardys-MNM match, too.
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#17 wwe4ever_in05
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Where's Melina's red carpet?
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BAH GAWD BOBBAH LASHLAY IS DONALD TRUMP'S PICK!!! I WOULD'VE NEVER GUESSED!!!
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#19 wwe4ever_in05
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Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa the mystery is over.

It's Bobby Lashley WOW!!!!

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Where's Melina's red carpet?wwe4ever_in05

in her pants

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#21 Rage11
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No heel turn tonight...will happen eventually though.
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#22 SeriousThreat
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Wtf, that was the perfect night to turn Cena heel. Next week I guess?

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#23 Rage11
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Wtf, that was the perfect night to turn Cena heel. Next week I guess?

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Cena won't be turning heel, HBK will.
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#24 sephy37
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[QUOTE="SeriousThreat"]

Wtf, that was the perfect night to turn Cena heel. Next week I guess?

Rage11



Cena won't be turning heel, HBK will.

quote me on this. Cena will turn heel on HBK cuz even tho HBK is doing all those hints that he wants to superkick Cena or wants his belt....Cena will get sick of it and turn heel on HBK. but even if he does, he'll be like a tweener and will be back to a face after WM 23, cuz the WWE can't go on without a cash cow like Cena not raking in the dough.

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[QUOTE="SeriousThreat"]

Wtf, that was the perfect night to turn Cena heel. Next week I guess?

Rage11



Cena won't be turning heel, HBK will.

Thats what they want you to think. Unless they plan on keeping things very blunt and predictable (which is usually the case with WWE though) they will throw the swerve.

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They need to turn Cena heel soon. Next week would be perfect then since they keep teasing HBK doing so. Every week you keep seeing Shawn feet moving looking like he is going to kick him. I thought that video package they show of HBK betraying guys over the past decade was great. It made more tension between the two. I felt bad that Shelton botch his move. It's not everyday a great athlete like Shelton botches his move. It was kind of a good match between the two. We it looks as though the 8 Man MITB is true. I guess they will have another competitor from ECW, and Smackdown! compete for the spot and leave the 8 one probably a Last Chance to Enter type of match featuring those that lost their matches and try one more time to make it in. I want Shelton in it.
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They need to turn Cena heel soon. Next week would be perfect then since they keep teasing HBK doing so. Every week you keep seeing Shawn feet moving looking like he is going to kick him. I thought that video package they show of HBK betraying guys over the past decade was great. It made more tension between the two. I felt bad that Shelton botch his move. It's not everyday a great athlete like Shelton botches his move. It was kind of a good match between the two. We it looks as though the 8 Man MITB is true. I guess they will have another competitor from ECW, and Smackdown! compete for the spot and leave the 8 one probably a Last Chance to Enter type of match featuring those that lost their matches and try one more time to make it in. I want Shelton in it.KevyR

Let's hope thrid time really is a charm and Shelton actually qualifys.

And let's hope third time really really is a charm and Shelton wins the damn thing.

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#28 Rage11
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The WWE isn't turning Cena heel, trust me...he is way too popular and would be a very bad business move. WWE isn't that stupid. I guarantee if anyone turns heel it will be Shawn Michaels. You can quote me on that one.
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He will turn heel (or they will try) until Mania. After that he will most likely go back to being a face as Sephy said, so they can bank off his merchandise. Turning HBK heel would be stupid after that vignette and all the superkick teases, everyone expects it.
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Do you guys really think that even IF Cena turns heel, the fans will actually boo him?

He would have to kill a baby with his bare hands or murder someone in the center of the ring. And even then I still think he'd be half over.

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#31 bulletproofcow
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Do you guys really think that even IF Cena turns heel, the fans will actually boo him?

He would have to kill a baby with his bare hands or murder someone in the center of the ring. And even then I still think he'd be half over.

MistaMike54
I'm pretty sure he'd have to eat a baby on the bodies of Flair, Hogan, and The Rock while worshipping Satan to become heel. Or get married on screen, whichever is wose.
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Theres a decent shot at turning him heel. Remember, HBK is part of "DX". The WWE marks LOVE "DX".
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Shelton can still be in MITB... Last chance battle royal. Maybe If I blackmail the WWE he can get in
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i hope cena turns heel and loses at mania then keep on feuding with michaels for a while after mania.
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#35 Rage11
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My prediction for ECW: Mr. McMahon will put Lashley up against the New Breed in a handicap match.
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Oh yeah I completely forgot about the cage match...
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Chaos ensued when Bobby Lashley and Umaga went face-to-face on Raw.

It didn’t take Donald Trump’s representative for the Battle of Billionaires long to make his presence felt. Moments after Trump revealed his decision live on Raw, ECW World Champion Bobby Lashley confidently marched to the ring and went face-to-face with Mr. McMahon’s hand picked representative: the savage Samoan Bulldozer Umaga. What followed was one of the most physical, emotional and riveting brawls in recent WWE memory.
 
Lashley and Umaga pummeled each other throughout the arena, destroying everything in their path, including dozens of security personnel who were called to the scene. Each time it looked as though order had been restored, the fighting would erupt again at a level more intense than before. It seemed as if these two powerhouses were trying to establish dominance, looking to mark their territory just weeks before their historic meeting at WrestleMania.
 
WWE.com approached Lashley in the locker room area after the adrenaline-fueled rage had left his body. The ECW World Champion said that he considers it an honor to be chosen by Trump and a privilege to compete at WrestleMania, and it will be a pleasure to beat Umaga.
 
“I am not going to let Mr. Trump down,” said Lashley. “I’m not going to let WWE fans down, and I’m damn sure not going to let myself down. I will be victorious at WrestleMania.”
 
The ECW World Champion wanted to convey to WWE fans one thing: what happened on Raw was just a small sample of what is going to happen in Detroit on April 1.

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#38 Link256
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Personally, I do not care what kind of situation, gimmick, environment and/or match they are booked into, regardless - Holly vs. Lashley is bound to be boring venture.

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Meh with Kennedy winning against Sabu for MITB, rather have Sabu in the MITB ladder match, and if only 1 ECW allowed, rather have him than Punk.
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Meh with Kennedy winning against Sabu for MITB, rather have Sabu in the MITB ladder match, and if only 1 ECW allowed, rather have him than Punk.mrgab
Sabu botches way too much to be in a ladder match. Remember RVD vs Sabu in ladder match? Yeah, bad idea. Edge, Punk, Booker, Hardy, and now Kennedy. Not a bad lineup at all.
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#41 Link256
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Well, on the bright side, at least with Holly and Lashley, the pain will kept at minimal, instead of being some kind of toucher session.
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#42 Link256
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[QUOTE="mrgab"]Meh with Kennedy winning against Sabu for MITB, rather have Sabu in the MITB ladder match, and if only 1 ECW allowed, rather have him than Punk.Chicago_Nut
Sabu botches way too much to be in a ladder match. Remember RVD vs Sabu in ladder match? Yeah, bad idea. Edge, Punk, Booker, Hardy, and now Kennedy. Not a bad lineup at all.

Besides, out of the two, lets be honest - regardless of your personal preference, Kennedy is simply the bigger star.

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#43 Link256
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Kevin Thorn's version of the Diamond Cutter/Twist-of-Fate/RKO/Front-Face DDT - at least - on this instance - has to be one of the weakest versions of that move I have ever seen.

Holly smiling...? Eh - am I the only one thinks that looked bit "weird"?

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#44 mrgab
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Anyhow, whens the last time Stevie Richards actually won a match....back when he led Right to Censor?
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#45 Link256
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So, is that move "everyone" (well, fairly decent majority of you) was marking out for last week, Go-To-Sleep, that fireman's carry into the knee-to-the-face that CM Punk used as finisher this week...? Because, if it is, I must say - at least - in regards to his version of the move - am I the only person who thinks its overrated?

Edit: Personally, I find it to be decent and all, however, for my liking, it seem as if it should be mid-match move, instead of being finisher...

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I'll save my mark out for when he hits a Pepsi Plunge (even though thah won't happen as long as HHH is around).
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#47 sephy37
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I'll save my mark out for when he hits a Pepsi Plunge (even though thah won't happen as long as HHH is around).FlamesFan2
i doubt he'll use it until he wins a championship (a big one at that) cuz it's one of those moves that shouldn't be used a lot because 1) it can look VERY bad if done wrong or the opponent protects himself too much and 2) will mean more if he doesn't do it all the time like Misawa's Tiger Driver '91
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So, is that move "everyone" (well, fairly decent majority of you) was marking out for last week, Go-To-Sleep, that fireman's carry into the knee-to-the-face that CM Punk used as finisher this week...? Because, if it is, I must say - at least - in regards to his version of the move - am I the only person who thinks its overrated?

Edit: Personally, I find it to be decent and all, however, for my liking, it seem as if it should be mid-match move, instead of being finisher...Link256

As with just about everything Punk rips off from KENTA, it looks pretty ****ty by comparison. 

Its also kinda similar to the Pounce, where it is very dependent on who's taking the move.  It can look like a legit KO move.

While it had some novelty at first, I really wish they would drop the whole "Brazilian Ju-Jitsu Master" crap and let Punk wrestle like CM Punk and not the poor man's KENTA.

I saw the tag match and Punk-Stevie and both were all right.  I bailed quickly on the rest of the show. 

I really love that the WWE's focal point is now completely on McMahon-Trump.

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[QUOTE="mrgab"]Meh with Kennedy winning against Sabu for MITB, rather have Sabu in the MITB ladder match, and if only 1 ECW allowed, rather have him than Punk.Chicago_Nut
Sabu botches way too much to be in a ladder match. Remember RVD vs Sabu in ladder match? Yeah, bad idea. Edge, Punk, Booker, Hardy, and now Kennedy. Not a bad lineup at all.

I understand where you're coming from, especially with what you've seen of Sabu.  He's streaky at best.  But that's the nature of Sabu.  When he's off, he's usually pretty difficult to watch, and both he and RVD were off in their ladder match.  When he's on, though, he can steal the show from anybody.  Its the risk you run.

And if Sabu were guaranteed to be on, he's be a ridiculously better choice than Kennedy for the benefit of the match.

Besides, out of the two, lets be honest - regardless of your personal preference, Kennedy is simply the bigger star.Link256
You may be right, especially now, and within the enclosed world of WWE, you're absolutely right.  However, I can't completely let this go unchallenged.  Sabu was an international legend long before he entered the WWE and well before anybody had heard of Mr. Kennedy.  I don't think jobbing out repeatedly to Undertaker and Batista can completely over-shadow Sabu's legacy.

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#50 wwe4ever_in05
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ECW was ok, I did like what Lashley did to Umaga after the match, Punk Vs. Stevie was ok, WWE wants Punk on ECW every week now I think.  

What I don't understand is why face Stevie, why not face someone from RAW or Smackdown, like how they have Lashley or Kennedy have been on multi-brands?

I thought what The Sandman did to Ariel was funny. :lol: